Don’t Forget!

Don’t forget to Vote tomorrow!  Remember, the rule is:  if you don’t vote, you don’t get to bitch!

No one wants to give up that right!

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  1. Posted by Josh on November 3, 2008 at 10:26 am

    These points are not mine (Neal Boortz), but I think it’s something everyone should read before going to vote tomorrow. These are a few of the reasons I am choosing to vote for John McCain.

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    One question about Obama that has never been satisfactorily answered is “What has he ever accomplished?” The best his supporters can come up with is “He was elected to the U.S. Senate.” So was John McCain … several times. Besides, take a look at his election. He had two opponents self-destruct with scandal. The GOP had to go to Maryland and talk Alan Keyes into moving to Illinois to run against Obama. Trust me, that win was no sterling accomplishment.

    Don’t argue with me here. You’ll lose. There is NO constitutional right to vote in a presidential election. We’re going to learn in a few days just how smart our founding fathers were in this regard.

    Obama is a product of the Chicago political machine. Several times during his political career Obama had a chance to either cast a vote or make a statement against the corruption that permeates Chicago’s machine. Never – not on one occasion – did he do so.

    The fact is, Obama has benefited from corruption (Tony Rezko?) but has never fought it.

    Do you know how Obama won his first election in Illinois? He had campaign operatives go to the voting office and work hundreds of hours pouring over petitions to have his opponents thrown off the ballot. I guess that means that this is the first real election battle he’s ever been in!

    I guess it’s just me, but all this time I thought that the government used its power to seize property … i.e., to tax … in order to fund the necessary and appropriate functions of government. Now, under Obama, we’ve learned that one of the appropriate functions of government is to take from those who have and give to those who have not. I prefer a different phraseology: Take from those who achieve, and give to those who achieve not. Karl Marx was of a like mind.

    Obama’s “spread the wealth around” mantra means that he believes that we do not leave our homes every morning to work for ourselves and our families. We leave our homes to work for the government. We belong to government, not to ourselves. The government will determine how much of the money we earn we deserve to keep .. the rest goes to people the government believes to be even more deserving of the fruits of our labors.

    Obama’s candidacy would have faltered before an educated electorate. Why do you think Democrats love government schools so much? Do you want examples? I’ve got examples.
    Obama says he’s going to give tax cuts to 95% of Americans. Americans don’t realize that over 40% of their numbers don’t pay income taxes; and since they don’t realize that, they aren’t asking themselves how Obama can give a tax cut to someone who doesn’t pay taxes.

    Obama has effectively changed the definition of “tax cut.” From now on any government handout to any worker is a tax cut. Changing this definition may well be one of their greatest accomplishments in this election and that new definition will cause us problems for decades.

    Obama constantly rants about those dirty corporations who shipped “our jobs overseas.” An educated voter knows that those jobs belong to the employers, not the employees. Workers look for jobs. Employers with jobs look for workers. Pretty simple, really.

    Obama also tells us that 95% of small businesses out there will not have their taxes increased. The only reason this line works is because our government educated voters cannot grasp the idea that it isn’t the percentage of small businesses hit with tax increases that counts; it’s the percentage of small business employees represented by the unfortunate 5% that counts. Tomorrow thousands of workers – perhaps tens of thousands of workers – employed by what we call “small businesses” will cast a vote that, a year or so down the road, will cost them their jobs.

    Over the weekend Obama promised to bankrupt the coal industry if they tried to build any more coal-fired power plants. Can any of you think of a time when any president has ever made an overt threat to bankrupt a large American industry?

    Obama says that his “cap and trade” policy for controlling greenhouse gas emissions is going to cost electricity prices to “skyrocket.” Oops … there goes some of that middle class “tax cut.” Guess he’ll have to transfer some more wealth to help his constituents pay the increased price.

    There are literally millions of Obama supporters out there who think that once Obama becomes the president their lives are going to become sweetness, roses and light.

    Remember Obama’s 30-minute infomercial? If a foreigner with no knowledge of our country or our people were to see that program they would think that America was a country mired in abject misery and depravation. Thanks, Obama, for the nice positive message.

    How long after the election, whether Obama wins or loses, do you think it will take for that America-hater Jeremiah Wright to surface?

    The top 10% of income earners in this country pay over 70% of all income taxes. The top 1% of income earners earn around 19% of all income, but they pay almost 39% of all income taxes. When these people don’t want to give up a larger share of their earnings Obama call’s them “selfish.”

    When someone is content to sit on their butts and wait for Obama to transfer some wealth from someone else to their pockets they are not “selfish.”

    Every one of the points I am bringing up here is “hate speech” to an Obamacon.

    The great Democrat goal is to have more than 50% of the voters living, at least in part, on the efforts of the minority of voters. When we pass that tipping point … and we’re nearly there … game over.

    In every election since 1952 Democrats have told the voters “vote for the Republicans and they’ll take your Social Security away.” In every election after 2008 the Democrats will say “Vote for the Republicans and they’re going to make you pay taxes.” Then if Obama wins again, in every election after 2012 Democrats will say “Vote for the Republicans and they’ll make you pay for your own Social Security and Medicare.” How long before we hear: “Vote for the Republicans and they’ll make you work for a living!”

    Obama will definitely destroy your right to be armed outside of your own home for your own protection. The question is whether we count the time until he accomplishes this in days, weeks, months or years.

    Do you see now why politicians, especially Democrats, aren’t fond of the FairTax? Without playing his tax scam and wealth envy card Obama would have been toast by Super Tuesday.
    Surveys in Israel show that 76% of Israeli citizens want McCain to win. American Jews will vote for Obama by pretty much the same percentage. What do Jews in Israel know that Jews in America do not?

    Peter Nicholas is a reporter for the Los Angeles Times. He has been traveling with Obama for almost the entire campaign. Nicholas writes “After all this time with him, I still can’t say with certainty who he is.” Nicholas doesn’t know him, but so many voters are so sure they do.

    Obama wants a national civilian security force that, in his words, is “just as strong as our military.” Who would they serve under? What would their mandate be? Would they be unionized? (oh HELL yes!). Would this be like the Soviet Union under Communism where neighbors ratted on neighbors for anti-government statements? And what does he mean “as strong as our military?” Would this national civilian security force have nukes? Tanks? Fighter planes? Are we just talking about a glorified national police? (Show us your papers!)
    Obama has talked about reducing spending on our military. One leading Democrat Senator has suggested a 25% spending cut on defense. Do you feel comfortable with that? You do know that all of the savings would be spent on buying votes, don’t you?

    Do you home school your children? Obama has called home schooling a fraud. Put him in office and you’ll be putting your kids back in government schools for their indoctrination.
    Do you run a small business? If Obama wins start planning immediately to lower your work force. The best way to do this would be through efficiency measures and temporary staffing agencies. Not only is Obama going to make it easier for your workers to unionize … he’s going to expand onerous measures such as the Family Leave Act. You will end up paying your employees a good portion of their salary to lay out for weeks on end.

    Maybe you shop at Wal-Mart. Get ready for higher prices. Obama’s instant unionization bill will surely result in the unionization of Wal-Mart’s workforce. In fact, as much as Democrat politicians hate Wal-Mart, it’s safe to say that Wal-Mart is target number one. The result? Higher prices for you. If Obama can call a government handout a tax cut, we can call higher prices a tax increase. This will be Obama’s tax increase on the poor and the middle class.

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  2. I think one of the most telling things in this election is how Obama has still not been able to pull away from McCain. Bush’s approval rating is horribly low and people are dissatisfied. However, every day closer to the election, the polls get tighter and tighter. Why? Because people don’t trust Obama. If they did, he would have pulled away by now.

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  3. Obama has been steadily polling 5-10 points ahead of McCain for a month. Check out Pollster.com’s aggregate. That’s pulling ahead.

    You know what is telling? A young black man who’s middle name is Hussein and who’s father was a Muslim, who has connections to an incendary, angry black pastor, who has (weak) connections to a domestic terrorist, who has only been a US senator for 1 term (and a state senator for 11 years), who “hasn’t done anything significant” according to you, and who has little military experience is about to TROUNCE a rich, white war hero with decades of experience in government.

    Now THAT is telling!

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  4. well said taylor!

    nearly all the media coverage of who canadians and american expats up here want to win points to obama, but we are still holding our breath until the final decision is announced.

    go obama!

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  5. Posted by Josh on November 3, 2008 at 11:42 am

    That speaks volumes about the intelligence of those voting for him doesn’t it?

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  6. Absolutely, Josh! It shows that we aren’t going to be so ridiculously judgemental that we would hold a silly thing like a name and a father against someone. It shows that we recognize getting shot down five times and being a mediocre senator for years doesn’t qualify someone to run out country. It shows that we won’t fall victim to right-wing hysterics over something so pointless as a sermon given years ago at a time when Obama wasn’t even there. It shows that we recognize that people do thing like mature and grow and LEARN from their mistakes. It shows that we require a lot more than bluster and bravado in our leaders. Honor IS a requirement for our leaders!

    It shows rational thought processes, maturity, intelligence, and recognition of strength and weaknesses.

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  7. Posted by Josh on November 3, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    First of all, that was a joke (so no one gets offended or mad).

    What qualifies Obama to be president? I guess I’ve missed that somewhere in this election cycle (and on this blog). I know everyone thinks he’s a great guy, so please don’t repeat that.

    The reasons I listed for why I don’t think you should vote for Obama do not mention his name (or his father). I wouldn’t even care if he WAS a Muslim. There was nothing in there about his association with Jeremiah Wright (other than that he will resurface once the election is over), either. I’m not sure why you brought that up. It’s funny you addressed stuff that wasn’t listed, but failed to address any of the points that were listed…

    Seriously, what makes you think this guy is qualified to be president? What has he done?

    You choosing to vote for Obama shows that you:
    – want more government involvement in your life
    – are “ok” with government punishing you for being successful
    – are “ok” with higher energy prices
    – are “ok” with tons of people losing their jobs
    – are “ok” with the economy continuing its slide
    – generally speaking, want the goverenment to hold your hand throughout your entire life

    If that’s what you want, then that’s your choice to make. Vote Obama.

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  8. Posted by Ezra on November 3, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    What makes him qualified is that he was born in the United States and he is over 35. Beyond that, the American voters have judged him to be qualified. That’s it. Period. If you don’t agree, that is your opinion. And, it’s in the minority.

    Your characterizations of what we must be okay with if we vote for Obama is a joke. It is a ploy to frighten people. If you vote for John McCain it shows that you:
    – are “ok” with continuing an indefinite unprovoked war that is costing American’s jobs and sending us further into debt.
    – are “ok” with the increased dependence on oil for our energy needs
    – are “ok” with policies that will make it more difficult for people to get health care
    – are “ok” our economic downturn not just continuing, but worsening
    – are “ok” with America being further demonized by the rest of the world, and therefore receiving less support from other leaders
    – generally the deregulators want government completely gone so that anarchy can reign supreme.

    Those statements are 100% as rational as the ones you made. And they are tirades, not an informed discussion. I didn’t realize you had bought into Karl Rove politics so completely, Josh. Good luck with that future in politics.

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  9. At this point, I am tired of debating. I just can’t wait until tomorrow is over. I think everyone will be very surprised at how close this election is actually going to be. It seems like so many voters and media outlets believe that Obama has already won and they are going to be very surprised. Don’t underestimate Republicans. Tomorrow should be very interesting.

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  10. And Ezra, Josh has made plenty of rational statements and tried to carry on an informed discussion. It doesn’t matter. Even if we used every rational argument with statistics and sources you would still believe that we are voting for McCain because we are racist.

    If I were you, I would really not want to get into who has “rational” and “informed” reasoning here.

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  11. Josh-

    I didn’t even read your first comment, so I wasn’t responding to that. I was responding to your little “joke.”

    None of this matters. When you wake up on Wednesday morning Obama is going to be the president-elect.

    And then we’ll steal all your money, give it to crack heads, and force all republicans to have late-term abortions! IT’S GOING TO BE AWESOME!

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  12. One more thing. I think everyone needs to keep in mind that this is not good vs evil. Both sides have very different ideas about what is best for the country. There are idiot Republicans and idiot Democrats. There are extremely smart Republicans and extremely smart Democrats. Republicans are not “better people” and neither are Democrats.

    This election has turned everyone against each other (and I am guilty of this too) and it is unfortunate.

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  13. Posted by Ezra on November 3, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    Becs, you just said something that is a fundamental problem in American politics. You said the Republicans and Democrats have very different ideas about what is best for the country.

    That is a myth that has been put out there. And it is a myth. The parties want almost the exact same things for the country. Jobs. Good economy. Health care. Education. They both want the same ends. They just have different ideas of how we should do it. The idea that the parties want wildly different things for the country is a fundamental reason why the citizens have become so divided. There is no reason for a division when every citizen wants a better country.

    And please don’t confuse irrational and uninformed with sarcasm. If you can’t tell which is which, then maybe comment pages on blogs aren’t the best place for you to form your judgment of others.

    Josh’s points weren’t even his, they were a quote. And most of them were propaganda. Propaganda is irrational. Fear tactics are irrational. No matter how many times we have said exactly why we are Obama supporters the two of you continue to come back to this page and say, “I still haven’t heard any reason other than ‘he’s a great speaker’ to vote for Obama.” That’s because you are as closed off to him as many Obama fans are to McCain. I could say that I haven’t heard any reason to vote for McCain. The arguments that have been made have been about a tax policy that will have extremely little effect on any of our lives – no matter which candidate wins. And an argument for a repeal of Roe vs. Wade. Which isn’t even a vote for McCain, it a vote for the Christian right. McCain never even goes to church. Obama has gone most Sundays for the last 30 years. If your view is based on Christian ideals then maybe you should recognize that the vote is for an individual President, not a party president like we had with Bush.

    So, beyond scare tactics and half-truths, and religious beliefs, can either of you give me some real reasons why I should vote for McCain? Give me five reasons each, reasons that are not propganda, reasons that are not lies. If you can make a good point, then I’ll go vote for McCain tomorrow. My vote won’t matter in my state. But I doubt you can give me five reasons each that aren’t based on opinions.

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  14. Ezra, I am not going to list reasons why I am voting for McCain AGAIN. I have done that throughout the three debates that have taken place on Taylor’s blog. I have said this once and I will say it again; your mind is made up. My mind is made up. Nothing you can say will make Obama an appealing candidate to me. I don’t trust him at all and I never will. Nothing I can say will change your mind. If I list 100 great, rational reasons why I am voting for him, you will refute every single one as opinionated or irrational or whatever. Neither one of us is open-minded here. Don’t pretend like you are. I’m not pretending like I am.

    And I have never asked you why you are voting for Obama. I don’t know where you got that from.

    “And please don’t confuse irrational and uninformed with sarcasm. If you can’t tell which is which, then maybe comment pages on blogs aren’t the best place for you to form your judgment of others.”

    Um, what are you referring to here? The only thing I brought up as being irrational and uninformed was your multiple comments on McCain voters being racist. You did not make those comments in sarcasm.

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  15. Posted by Ezra on November 3, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    I made one comment, not multiple. And it wasn’t aimed at anyone, it was expressing how I don’t see how people could vote for McCain if they want a better life. And it was COMPLETELY sarcastic.

    Fine, if you can’t accept the challenge, then okay. I put my vote on the table. Like I said, the only reasons I have heard anyone, including you, say they are voting for McCain are: I don’t trust Obama, I hate abortions, Obama will drive the rich bankrupt with his 4% tax increase, and… no, that’s it. Give me something that is a reason other than I don’t like him (which, frankly, seems a little racist. I have never heard that used as a valid reason for any white candidates – and that isn’t calling anyone anything, it is saying what it seems like to me. grow up people). I like McCain. I honor McCain. I just don’t think he will be as good for the country.

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  16. Posted by Ezra on November 3, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    But the race will definitely be closer than people are predicting. Just look at the SNL skit where they talk about polling numbers for Obama, and then ask the follow-up question, Really? That’s why it’ll be close.

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  17. Lets recap:

    1. “I have said it in the past, but I truly believe that the only rational logic behind casting a vote for McCain is racism.”

    2. “First, I said it was my opinion that there is no other rational reason to vote for McCain.”

    3. “If you think I was calling you a racist, then maybe you’re feeling guilty. I just said it was my opinion about the rationale. I didn’t say you had to like it.”

    All three of those were from different comments. Also, even Taylor said something to you about your racism comments so I guess she was misunderstand too? It’s funny that you never said anything about you being sarcastic until right now.

    Like I said I see no point in listing the reasons why I am voting for McCain here. You will not read with an open-mind. You are just waiting to argue every point I make.

    Everyone who is voting for a candidate only has opinionated reasons for doing so. There is no PROOF that one candidate is better than the other. People are using their opinions to choose which candidate they believe is better for the country. You can’t ask for reasons I am voting for him that are not based on opinions. That doesn’t make any sense. I have not heard any good reasons why someone would vote for Obama because I do not agree with Obama. You won’t agree with anything I say either.

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  18. Posted by Josh on November 3, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    I’m still waiting for reasons to vote for Obama…

    By the statements made here, I’m 2/3 as qualified as he is (I’m not quite 35).

    Ezra,

    – are “ok” with continuing an indefinite unprovoked war that is costing American’s jobs and sending us further into debt.

    – It wasn’t unprovoked. Iraq was in violation of numerous U.N sanctions and were leading everyone to believe they had WMD’s (which they did and we did find – we just didn’t find the stockpiles we thought there would be). The government’s uncontrollable spending is the main cause of our debt.

    – are “ok” with the increased dependence on oil for our energy needs

    – I have no problem with us using oil until a better solution is found. We’re still working on that, so until then… yes.

    – are “ok” with policies that will make it more difficult for people to get health care

    – No one wants people not to have health care. Just get it the way everyone else does (pay for it yourself).

    – are “ok” our economic downturn not just continuing, but worsening

    – Wait until Obama taxes the ass off of big businesses. NEWS FLASH: Businesses don’t pay taxes, they pass them on. Taxing businesses will only make them raise prices, which will slow consumer spending, which will hurt the economy. Not only that, but it will encourage businesses to send more jobs over seas.

    – are “ok” with America being further demonized by the rest of the world, and therefore receiving less support from other leaders

    – My next door neighbor is German. He would disagree that the U.S. is demonized. He says that we are still the country that everyone wants to be. I think we have more than enough support from the leaders that matter (the U.K. and Australia).

    – generally the deregulators want government completely gone so that anarchy can reign supreme.

    – Not necessarily true, but regulation has gotten way out of hand in this country.

    All caps is for emphasis only:

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  19. Posted by Josh on November 3, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Our country was founded on capitalist ideals and philosophies. It is my firm belief (prove me wrong) that capitalism has made us into the super-power we are today. Why would anyone in their right mind want to move towards socialism when we’ve seen numerous examples of socialism failing???

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  20. Posted by Josh on November 3, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    P.S., my German next door neighbor is a huge liberal and loves Clinton. I don’t think he would have a problem calling out the U.S. if he thought it was so.

    Also, Ezra, if you vote is seriously on the table, we need to talk. However, I’m farily confident you’ve made up your mind. If you want reasons to vote for McCain, I’ll list more than you’ll have time to read tonight. Otherwise, I’ll not waste my time (and yours).

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  21. I don’t want to get into debates with anyone, and I won’t say who I’m voting for (though guesses aren’t difficult). I just want to put a statement out there and make this point:

    HIGHER TAXES IS NOT SOCIALISM

    fer the love of Allah (I’m not muslim, so my opinion can matter, don’t worry).

    In the past we’ve had higher taxes on the rich than Obama will bring about, and yet we still managed to win the Cold War. I think we’ll be ok.

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  22. Posted by Josh on November 3, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Well, at least you make a clear and concise point. I can’t argue with that.

    However, our economy was much stronger then than it is now. I’m still unsure how our current economy will respond to higher taxes on the wealthy.

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  23. Posted by Josh on November 3, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    I think I’ve changed my mind after seeing this… I’m now voting for Obama… He’ll help me put gas in my car and he’ll help me pay off my mortgage. I was kinda growing tired of doing it myself…

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