Teaching an entire population of children to be idiots

I know y’all have heard about the hilarious atrocity that is the creation museum, right?

Daily Kos has a post about a visit:

In case you’ve wondered what a $27 million tribute to ignorance looks like, tech website Ars Technica has taken a field trip to the Creation Museum outside Cincinnati.

There were posters explaining just how coal could be formed in a few weeks as opposed to over millions of years, and how rapidly the biblical flood would cover the earth, drowning all but a handful of living creatures. The flood plays a big part in the museum’s attempt to explain away what we see as millions of years of natural processes. There was also an explanation as to why, with only one progenitor family, it wasn’t considered incest for Adam and Eve’s children to marry each other. Apparently there was less sin back then, and therefore fewer mutations in their DNA. Evidently sin, and not two copies of the same recessive trait, gives rise to congenital birth defects.

From the description, a good part of the museum isn’t about “creation” at all, but is devoted to the kind of “Hell House” horror show that some fundamentalist churches are prone to constructing around Halloween. You know, the ones where not believing exactly as they do causes you to become a heroin-addicted homosexual teenager who somehow still needs an abortion, dies on the table, and goes straight to you-know-where.

And there was a box of frogs.

This was of particular interest to me, since they claim the reason poison frogs aren’t poisonous in captivity is due to the Almighty. I’m fairly sure it’s due to the lack of poisonous mites in their diet, but there you go. Oh, and they have an example of a Triceratops with a genuine saddle and blanket on it, just like Adam and Eve use to ride.

Daily Kos: State of the Nation

No, really. A Triceratops with a saddle:

“Look at you there son! Now you’re just like Adam. You’re babies are going to marry each other!”

And there are more pictures right here. Most of them are images of the text displays, which, predictably, are wonderfully funny.

I am just completely baffled by people who actually, truly believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old. I cannot even begin to grasp what would make someone reject the literal mountains of evidence that completely and solidly dispel the entire creation story put forth by the Bible. It is ridiculous. Please, if any of you out there actually believe in creation, and believe that Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs (Fucking rode dinosaurs?? Are you kidding me?) (I guess if you do actually believe that, you may be offended by the use of “fucking.” Let me apologize. You probably don’t like my website very much. Sorry.) and believe that fossils and diamonds and sediments and Pangaea and Lucy are all lies concocted by Scientists then tell me why. How can you actually believe this?

I seriously want to know, because it frightens me that there are this many people out there flat out rejecting pure, certain science.

And what is really scary is that people are bringing their children here, and they are walking around a well-designed, impressive museum actually believing that what they are being taught is right. These children have no chance! They are being brainwashed! This is horrifying! Am I the only one who thinks this?


12 responses to this post.

  1. People have a right to believe that the earth is only 6,000 years old. I have the right to disagree. Ignorance may be bliss.


  2. Posted by mirandathepanda on June 8, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    I mean, technically diamonds are sediments but I see where you’re coming from.


  3. Actually, your beloved public school system has taught generation upon generation of children to be idiots. That’s why the truth seems so ridiculous to you. Have fun putting your faith and your childrens futures in the hands of unprovable theories and suspect “science.”


  4. Posted by Taylor on June 8, 2007 at 4:02 pm


    I’m amused that you refer “[my] beloved public school system” as I don’t think I have ever expressed my opinion of public schools here on my website. For the record, I have major problems with many of our public schools, and I hardly think that they are the model educational facilities. That said, I suppose I am the “idiot” product that you belive comes out of public schools, and I feel that I am well educated, so maybe I am a bit biased.
    I’m also amused that you lambaste science as a bunch of “unprovable theories” while you base what I assume are you beliefs on a storybook written hundreds and in some cases thousands of years after the fact by people who only had a minimal grasp of the world that we live in.
    But thank you for your comment. I just wish you would justify your beliefs to me so I can try to understand where you are coming from.


  5. Posted by Ezra on June 8, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    First, if I remember correctly, there are only about 100 public schools in the entire country (and only two in AL) that are better than the one you went to, so you should love your school and tell him to go fuck himself.

    Second, the argument that science is “suspect” is sort of like the ignorant argument that evolution is only a “theory.” In science nothing can be “suspect” and a theory is a law. The mere use of the term “suspect” is insulting to me as a scientist because it discounts the hours I spend each week trying to prove my ideas rather than just accepting a book written by flawed men. A theory in science has undergone more critical testing and been proven more times than anything a creationist will ever accomplish. And that is a fact, because no non-creationist is willing to critically examine creationist ideas because there is no concrete evidence to support the concepts. NO EVIDENCE EXCEPT A BOOK. Therefore, the “experiments”, which are generally based on writings rather than on empirical data, cannot undergo peer review. Peer review is important for anything to be believed as truth.

    But… The reason creationist can believe their ideas is that science currently cannot fill in all of the gaps. These gaps are there because since science has no allegiance to anything but science, it cannot accept things on faith. It is creationist faith that fills in the gaps, and as a result they believe their concept is more complete, and therefore true.

    I think of my grandmother who has a masters in biology and chemistry. She is a devout Christian who still attends church at least three times a week and goes to conferences as her church’s representative even though she is 81 years old. I once asked her if she believed in evolution (after I found out a girl I was interested in didn’t believe in evolution. remember that, Taylor?) She told me that she had to believe in the Bible because it was the cornerstone of her life. But that she was also not ignorant enough to believe that anything in this world is complete. She said the Creator made us in his image, and as such knew we would want to learn. He knew that we would misunderstand things, and we would seek answers. So he gave us the ability to use science, another cornerstone of her life, to find answers. He gave us science, and as a result of her experience, she did not believe that we had evolved from apes. But she did believe that human beings evolved along their line over time. And that possibly one of our ancient ancestors branched off and that ancestor evolved into an ape. The problem, she said, is that some people want to approach their faith without accepting the realities that God allows us to uncover.

    For the record, her concept that we didn’t evolve from apes, but rather that we share a common ancestor is called divergent evolution or cladogenesis. It is the current universally accepted “theory”. She didn’t know that when she said all these things since she hadn’t taught a class in almost twenty years. Apparently, she is pretty smart.

    I also have to recall a conversation with some friends in Auburn… One friend said he had a buddy in high school who didn’t believe in dinosaurs because they weren’t in the Bible. He didn’t believe in anything unless it was written in that book. Another guy at the table said, “Well, there are no fucking badgers in the bible either, but I can go show you one of those if you want me to.”


  6. Posted by Max on June 10, 2007 at 4:53 pm

    How about all of that poop on the ark, y’all! KIDDING–poop wasn’t mentioned, so it wasn’t there.

    Jokes aside, I’ll stand up and defend my beloved public school system (no quotation marks, no irony) any day against the concerted efforts of creationists meddling with textbook adoptions, narrow-minded parents refusing to allow their kids any kind of intellectual freedom or exploration outside of the home, home-schoolers who leech off the resources that are already strained to their limits trying to provide quality educations for children who ARE allowed to go to school with people who might look and act and believe differently, and an administration that barely cloaks its religious zealotry and anti-intellectual biases as it systematically undermines the philosophical AND economic foundations of the one thing we should be able to point to with pride and happiness: a properly-funded school system guaranteeing an equal and reason-based education for everyone in the country, regardless of whether their ancestors used saddles made of leather or cheap plastic when they were riding their dinosaurs to church every Sunday 6000 years ago.

    Sorry, what were we talking about again? Oh, yeah–that Creation Museum. Wait–that’s REAL? What’s up with that?


  7. i recently went to a fascinating museum – the museum of ethnography in ethiopia. ethiopia, the only country in the world where christianity is the state religion. and they don’t seem to have a problem with having lucy in a museum for people to visit to better understand the processes of evolution. they are actually quite proud of it. funny that a christian country can accept that her existence provides significant support to scientific ‘theories’ and other secular states cut it out of public education.

    i’d much prefer a museum in ethiopia with lucy than one where kids (and adults?) can ride a triceratops. just silly. seems like trying to fit science into a belief structure that was created before we had that knowledge rather than accepting it.


  8. “While you base what I assume are you beliefs on a storybook written hundreds and in some cases thousands of years after the fact by people who only had a minimal grasp of the world that we live in.”

    Or as some of us like to say, a collection of creation myths taken from a primitive, desert-dwelling sheep-herding tribe taken at face value 😉

    But you get the same thing all the time with denialism in general. Global Warming denialism, endangered species denialism, heliocentric denialism, and evolutionary denialism. Thanks, but I’m going to stick with the scientists on this one.

    A giant asteroid plummeting to Earth and causing a massive extinction event 65 million years ago? Theory.

    That God created the dinosaurs over the course a a couple 24-hour days? Not a theory.


  9. UGHHH! Don’t even get me started on this one. This and Kirk Cameron get me too incensed to make coherrent statements. People may have the right to believe these things, but I still have rights to call them fucking idiots. I “blogged” a little about this on my much less nice blog I’ll link to above.


  10. damn, fucked it up. There.


  11. Posted by Sandrita on June 12, 2007 at 11:05 am

    You are all wrong. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the only way…the only truth..the only light…

    May you all be touched by His noodly appendages.



  12. The danger of Creationism is that it somehow assumes it’s the right version of Creation.

    I’m sure the Ancient Greeks had loads of prophecies fulfilled with the Gods of the Olympus, but this doesn’t mean we have to read Roger Lancelyn Green as if it were Primary historical evidence.


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